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Norman Darwen sits down with Bajimba to talk about his two albums
Interview by Norman Darwen, June 2006

Bamjimba aka Jim Bamber aka The Fatman is a man with a long history; he has two CDs: 1 Love and Routes, with the latter issued at the end of June 2006. Here he talks about the background to these two albums:

ND: Let’s talk about ‘1 Love’ first?

Bajimba: ‘1 Love’ – yes, this friend of mine died from sickle cell anaemia trait. Papa Wade, a Jamaican guy, but he had gone to live in the Bahamas, he was about my age, in his fifties, and he died from pleurisy and pneumonia. He was a rasta man, he had locks right down to his ankles, a true rasta man. He wasn’t interested in given medical authority and his mum was trying to get him to cut his locks off, his lion’s mane, and he died in the end. I’d never heard of sickle cell anaemia… and then four months later Dennis Brown died. Dennis Brown was a massive influence with me, he used to come and stay with Eddy Grant down in Brixton when I lived in Efra Road in Brixton, and they used to play – I’ve always been into reggae, since ‘My Boy Lollipop’, that was Chris Blackwell’s, I used to work for him. Dennis Brown did really my favourite reggae single of all time, which is “Your Love’s Got A Hold On Me’, which is the ‘Heavenless’ rhythm, with Sly and Robbie – in my humble opinion, a finer rhythm section you just will not meet. So a friend of mine said, “Well, look, Jim, you’ve been on all these other people’s records, and you’ve always wanted to play reggae – why don’t you do a 12 inch single, dub a thing on the back of it, put it out and sell it and try and make some money for the Sickle Cell Society in the UK?” I couldn’t really say ‘no’ to that, so I went into the studio with some friends of mine, they’ve got a 32 track state of the art, digital, all this kind of stuff, I’m a drummer, I don’t understand. They gave me a young engineer, and I just laid down the rhythm, he said, “God, that’s really nice”. So I played the original to him and then he introduced me to people like Leftfield, Chemical Brothers, all this kind of new stuff, Afro-Celt Sound System. So he introduced me to all that and a way of doing stuff in the studio which I’d never done before – but I couldn’t find anybody to sing it. I auditioned loads! I went down to London, a guy flew over from America, a friend of a friend of a friend’s cousin flew in from Jamaica to try and sing it, and really nobody kind of hit it. So then we started having fun…

It expanded into a CD just on that rhythm. That’s how that came about really. I got a few hundred done and it just went bananas. My grandson taught me how to use a laptop computer – he said, “You want to sell it on the internet, grandad”, and he introduced me to all the ways of taking credit cards and so on. He’s only nine! My grandson taught me how to do all that. I made a terrible mistake because I put it in all my favourite reggae shops. I took a week out and I rang up all my favourite reggae shops in Glasgow, Birmingham, Bristol, Newcastle, and all the ones in London, Dub Vendor etc. Danger, danger, because they know when I’m coming; they put all the Sly & Robbie special edition 12 inchers, all the Augustus Pablo special edition 25 years old rare records are on the front row, so I waltz in with 30 of my CDs on sale or return and I come out with £50 worth of vinyl – in every shop! That’s how I promoted the first one, and that came out in 2003. The first year, 2004, the AGM of the UK Sickle Cell Society gave me a little award certificate for the best fundraiser of that year.

This has just taken off. I think the main criticism that I got from the reggae community as is, for the first album, was that it was a bit kind of neither here nor there. It was a bit kind of dance/ acid-jazz, a bit of blues in there. I got a bit of blues in there because poor old John Lee Hooker died as well – I love John Lee Hooker, you can’t get away from that. So the main criticism was that it was neither here nor there.
A really good friend of mine who has been championing my music is a DJ called Ras Charles Jones. He works on the Iration Vibration in New York, which goes out on a Sunday. He’s been an absolute darling, he played it right from the word ‘go’ and he got really into it. “I’ve been talking to you Jim and you’ve got a vast knowledge of this music – where’s that come from?” I said, “’My Boy Lollipop’ – the fact that I was a drummer playing 4/4 and when I heard this beat, I couldn’t get my head round it”. I lived in Lewisham at that time in London, and a friend of mine said “There’s a great record shop round the corner, Joe Gibbs Records Shop”. I used to spend hours in there, and that’s where I got most of my background really. All the old guys – Big Youth, Burning Spear, and of course the Taxi Gang, Sly & Robbie - being a drummer, I’ve been into rhythm and the history of rhythm for years. I used to have lessons from Ginger Baker and he introduced me to African music, Fela Kuti, etc. etc. That led me into the nyahbingi side of it.

Charles said, “Take it from there, man, do all your influences”. So, with the ‘Routes’ CD, there’s a bit of calypso on there, a bit of mento on there, there’s some ska on there – I work with Rico Rodriguez on there – and there’s some dub. I’ve always wanted to do another dub track with Dennis Bovell because back in the late seventies, early eighties, I met him for the first time and I did a dub with him. I was the only white guy in the band and we were all sat round in the control room waiting for his majesty to turn up. He came in and he had this massive dread and a great big long beard – he was called ‘Blackbeard’, Dennis ‘Blackbeard’ Bovell, with a big staff and a long African gown. The first thing he said was, “Right, who’s the drummer?” I put my hand up and he started sucking his teeth. This was at Gooseberry Studio in Soho, which was in a basement and the drum booth was down there, and they had it through on a closed circuit TV. So I go down this corridor and sit on these drums, got my headphones on and I can see Dennis on this desk, and he’s going “Four to the bar, hi-hat”, and he had me doing that for ages. “Accent on the third beat”. “Halve the time”. He took me around that whole drum kit, until he said, “Yeah, y’all right”. I owe an enormous debt to him because he taught me speed, he taught me such an enormous amount. Also, it was also the first time I was ever in a studio physically with somebody watching them dub something - watching this guy play a 24 track recording studio desk like an instrument. I’d never seen anything like it in my life. It was just unbelievable. So, ‘Train To Seven Sisters’ on the CD is because Dennis and I were planning to meet up again because I was running some things up to Fitzroy at Body Music in Seven Sisters, and apparently Dennis just lives round the corner, so he said, “Oh, I’ll meet you at the shop”. Seven Sisters, it’s the Victoria Line, it’s a long journey and there’s only two stops! I got to the Body Music shop and me and Dennis were waltzing round like two turnips. I used to have long hair and a goatee beard, and he of course was a big rasta and a massive black beard. Well, there was this bald-headed fat guy in the corner talking to Fitzroy. We started looking at each other, and of course it was Dennis – who is now not only the same shape as me but has got exactly the same amount of hair! Nil – we’re both a couple of slap-heads! He said, “God, Jim, I’ve always wanted to do something about that train journey, a piece of music that incorporates that train to Seven Sisters – you swine! I’ve got to play on it”. He came down to Ariwa Studios with the Mad Professor, and did play on it. Brilliant! And the Moroccan pipes on there, that’s kind of African, there’s dub, the Sly and Robbie influence. I met this Berber guy in Morocco who plays a ghita, and it’s a kind of desert instrument. It’s the same one that they use for charming snakes – I can’t find anyone in this country who can blow the thing! I’ve been working with some of the best horn players in Manchester and none of them can get a note out of it. But this guy, I had to stand him at the other side of this large courtyard and record him just on my lap-top – or else it was off the scale! It’s the loudest instrument I’ve ever heard in my life – and it has to be because they send messages across the desert with it. So I recorded that. Then of course there’s dub reggae on it, there’s roots and culture, there’s Papa Wade’s brother who’s now died from sickle cell complications, Jah Ducks. He died after he’d done this toasting for me that’s on there, and General Sensi. I did ‘Sail Away’ there, all natural instruments, I did that at Compass Point too; there’s Cecil Dorsett, who is boss of the First Bahamian Steel Orchestra – I love steel bands. So I had this fantastic track, I got Sensi and Ducks in to chant on it, as they say, and they did six tracks for me. Sensi rang me up about three months later to say that Jah Ducks had died; he just caught something, and like his brother, he wouldn’t go to the hospital and he wouldn’t take medical treatment – he just died. So, another casualty… So that’s really an emotional track for me, ‘Reggae Gone Clear’, and I clipped all the best bits from the six tracks – these guys, you just give them a track, they’re “run it again, man”, and they’re off on something else. I could have done a whole album actually! So that’s a bit of rough, tough stuff.

The main guy on this album is called Olawatobe Adeydadji, that’s his full name. He’s a Nigerian guy. As I was saying, with the first album I couldn’t get anybody to sing it, which is why it’s all virtually instrumental apart from a few wailing ladies in there. So for the new album, Ras Charles said “Yeah, a history of all your influences, that’ll be really good, and it will be more roots and culture for the people who say you’re not reggae enough” – but again, I didn’t have anybody to sing. Then I got an email from Toby Adeydadji, El Fata is his stage name. He was over in this country for a year – this is about three years ago – and I think he thought that I was a record company, so he sent me an email and he wanted to send me a demo. So I put him straight on that, I said “I’m just a sole trader here; Sony-ATV I’m not – but by all means send me your demo”. So this guy sent me this demo and the minute I put it on, I thought, “this guy sings like a linnet”. Thank you Jah, the great spirit, for sending me this guy. He’s written and sung on quite a few of these tracks. I think he’s a brilliant songwriter and as I say, he sings beautifully, a big range. Roger Steffens, John Masouri, they’ve all said, “This guy can sing”. He can. The other four tracks, ‘Sail Away’ was written by a friend of mine, a really good piano player. He absolutely loved reggae to bits, and he wrote ‘Sail Away’, that’s Harry Bogdanovich. I just had to do a Bob Dylan song – I know it was quite fashionable at the time because there was a Bob Dylan reggae album out, with Toots and everybody, Sizzla did a fantastic one, so I had to do one – and ‘Licence To Kill’ just speaks for itself – “who’s gonna take away a man’s licence to kill?” I’ve always thought Dylan really hits it there, a beautiful lyric writer, and also the original version of that is on a Bob Dylan album called ‘Infidels’ which was recorded at Compass Point and who was the rhythm section? Sly and Robbie! They get everywhere. Jackson Browne is another songwriter I’ve always loved, a fantastic songwriter, and while we were doing the tracks with Rico in Ariwa studios in London, Mad Professor’s place, they found Fats Domino on a roof. I’d been toying between two Jackson Browne songs, and the one that’s on here is ‘After The Deluge’, so that kind of fitted. Also, an interesting point – Rico Rodriguez said that Fats Domino was one of the first guys he ever heard. We were doing ‘You Are My Sunshine’ a lot faster than it is on the album until Rico said, “Listen – why don’t you slow it down to Fats Domino’s speed” Slow ska – a weird thing for me to get my head around. Rico was saying that whole ‘Walking To New Orleans’ type of thing – do you know, it’s really hard to play. Anything slow and simple is really hard to play for a drummer, which brings me back to Dennis Bovell who taught me how to play slow and simple. My favourite drummer is Billy Cobham and I find it quite easy to paradiddle and five-stroke roll around the kit, fast as hell, and it impresses people, but to play slow and simple like Sly Dunbar does so that you can drive a bus through the gap between one thing and another is an art. I’m still learning how to do that. That’s just about every track, I think.

ND: You also have a track Mad Professor mixed for you, it’s on Tanty Records?

Bajimba: Tanty? Yeah, this was through Dennis Bovell as well. I was in touch with a guy in Italy called Daniele Carmosino, who’s a dub guy, he has a thing called Piano B Outernational. It’s kind of Italy’s answer to Studio One or King Tubbys. That was a strange coincidence because there’s another guy, Midnight Dread in Paris, Prince Thierry who has a radio show who put me onto Daniel as well. So we swapped tracks and he mixed a few of mine and I pampered a few of his up. He sent me ‘The Roots Of DubFunk 4’ which is the one before the one I’m on, which is the one he was on. He recommended me to Kelvin Richards who is in charge of Tanty Records, and he said, “Yeah, send me some dubs”. I had a digital EP for sale online which came out a couple of years ago called ‘Wake Up’. It was an anti-war diatribe, and it was based on the Last Poets, “Wake Up Or We’re All Through” – I used to listen to them in the sixties. I met a dub poet called Mark May Smith who’s now down in London, he’s got a book out now, he did a kind of voiceover on one of the dubs and the Mad Professor got his hands on it. Then I sent the Mad Professor’s dub to Kelvin, and he went “Yeah! Nice…” So that’s how that happened. Whether it was Mad Professor’s part or not, I don’t know, but I’m proud of it. So that’s come out and that’s been great promotion. I must big up Kelvin Richards at Tanty Records because he is a one-man promotion machine. Of course that has got my name around as well.

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- Norman Darwen